filtration for siamese fighter tank

[firedragon92]

hey guys i am considering getting some siamese fighters to put in my room and i know people say filtration is not necessary, but i wanted to do it. i wanted to get a 36cmX12cm divided into three sections but could not think of how to filter it. if any one knows how this can be done let me know i then thought of getting a 48cm tank divided into four and using the end section as a sump again any ideas welcome and any completly new ideas would be great, however keep in mind that this is going in my room so filtration needs to be fairly silent

also any ideas on how to get a heater in there would be great

[wombat1100]

I think your only option on a tank of those small dimensions is a
canister filter, the water flow pressure will cause you grief though so you will have to dissipate it as much as possible with a spray bar.

If you get the smallest possible canister filter and put it inside a cabinet that will help with the sound of filtration so you can sleep!!

As for a heater,if you were to use a canister filter you could plumb the heater in-line , i think there is a post on this forum with pics and instructions on how to do it.

You would also have to make sure your dividers didn't go all the way to the bottom of the tank so water can flow from one end of the tank to the other.

I guess you could use an external hang on type filter also.

[joz]

Imo you could make an air driven sponge filter.
Having the sponge at one end with a long outlet outputting at the other end.
This could be made easily with a smallish sponge or maybe cut a large one down.
The tubing could be made from 2 x 19mm poly tube with 90deg angle joiners and a 4mm micro angle sprinkler fitting to attach the air hose.


This way the water will slowly move through all the compartments back to the filter, thats if all the compartments have some flow trhough.

Honestly sponge filers are so very easy to assemble and are very under rated,they do a fantastc job as a bio filter and for only a couple of $$.

[firedragon92]

thanks guys i do not have to use those tank demensions they were just ones that i had seen

i am open to any suggestions of filtration for any size or shaped tank

Joz i would be interested in your idea if you could do a diagram to help me get a grasp on it as i dont really get where everything fits that would be great

also i was thinking of buying a normal tank and dividing it myself allowing for flow and having a sump built into the back with a heater inside

but any ideas or suggeations welcome

[joz]

Haha! now I'm stuck.
I'll have to work out how to attach some kind of sketch.

But have you ever seen any sponge filters at your LFS?
then possibly a small green thing with a sponge at a right angle at the bottom ?

if so the idea is to try and duplicate it with 19mm poly tube.But with the riser at the top extended to the other end of the tank.
I know its hard to imagine what I'm trying to decribe but if you can't I'll try to get a drawing up for you.

[firedragon92]

your right it is hard to understand i get it but not enough to actually build one would you just use a powerhead to pump the water or actually buy a sponge filter and attach my own spunge set up onto it. a picture would be great

cheers

[joz]

I suppose a powerhead would work,but for sponge filters I would suggest an air pump.
Still if I can manage to upload a drawing I'll do it tomorrow.

[joz]

Ok I hope this helps somewhat.
The sketch is a bit rough but it'll give you the general idea.

Polytube would be the cheapest way to go but the white PVC piping looks better in finish.
The tube can be kept in place with some heater suction cups.

But the poly is the least expensive way to go.



http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k84/joz_jnr/IMG.jpg?t=1225922960

[firedragon92]

yeah that does help and as long as the partitions allow watrer to pass through it will work perfectly and then i could try and get a small heater under the sponge to help heat and if i put the end of the tube in the water facing the side of the tank there will be no noise or stress to the fish

any other ideas are welcome as i want to do this properly

i am still considering building the tank myself, but this sounds just as good and sounds like it will cost under $50 which is good too.

thanks joz

[joz]

Ok my other idea is kind of the same but with the tanks in tiers.

With a pump pushing the water up high and then just letting it feed through all the tanks from top to bottom

[firedragon92]

yeah i guess it is yeah i really do like your idea

and i am definatly going to give it a shot i will go into my lfs and get some mesuments of the sponge and measure the pipes and the heater and ask if they can order me a tank to fit my specifications

[joz]

Keep us posted with any other thoughts.
I may have some more ideas for fighter holding tanks.I've seen a few good ones about over time.

[firedragon92]

yeah i will keep you posted

however i have some bad news the lady i was supposed to get the fighters off over fed them and they died so i need to find some more for cheep or i might go for some fancy half moons or crowns

what where your ideas for holding tanks as idealy i would like to breed them in the future